Thanks scorcher that is exactly what i need i was looking for a two channel one but i think that will work fine. hopefully i will Finnish the project soon and check out the performance on this thing. i am customizing the suspension, drive train, gearing, chassis etc. its actually really cool what i want done. i am also bidding on a tyco hammer that i want to upgrade to hobby grade (perhaps brushless and lipo setup) and build the ultimate sleeper.